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	<title>Comments on: FAILPUG! Should I Stay or Should I Go Now?</title>
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		<title>By: Necroid</title>
		<link>http://emeralddreamers.co.uk/2010/02/03/failpug-should-i-stay-or-should-i-go-now/comment-page-1/#comment-1006</link>
		<dc:creator>Necroid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 13:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol ^^

In retrospect that was a good pug though :-)

Okay our first try was a wipe, since everyone just charged in and had no idea about what to do. However when you took charge before the second one nobody complained. They appreciated being told what to do. You did it in a good way, and I learned a lot from it. 

There were no ego&#039;s being bruised by the suggestion they may not know as much as they thought, quite the opposite in that they wanted to succeed so were willing to listen (rather than just saying &quot;Retards!&quot; after the first wipe and quitting the group)

I realise now that was quite rare. If I remember right we kicked Onyxia ass after that. Plus I think I won the head and was the toast of Org :-)

So yes, good pugs do exist I guess. They must really. If all pugs were awful then nobody would ever do them ^^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol ^^</p>
<p>In retrospect that was a good pug though <img src='http://emeralddreamers.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Okay our first try was a wipe, since everyone just charged in and had no idea about what to do. However when you took charge before the second one nobody complained. They appreciated being told what to do. You did it in a good way, and I learned a lot from it. </p>
<p>There were no ego&#8217;s being bruised by the suggestion they may not know as much as they thought, quite the opposite in that they wanted to succeed so were willing to listen (rather than just saying &#8220;Retards!&#8221; after the first wipe and quitting the group)</p>
<p>I realise now that was quite rare. If I remember right we kicked Onyxia ass after that. Plus I think I won the head and was the toast of Org <img src='http://emeralddreamers.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>So yes, good pugs do exist I guess. They must really. If all pugs were awful then nobody would ever do them ^^</p>
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		<title>By: Shell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 12:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha,I didn&#039;t kick anyone into line I was merely giving them the benefit of my superior knowledge of the fight in a non-threatening, supportive way.

*shifty eyes*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha,I didn&#8217;t kick anyone into line I was merely giving them the benefit of my superior knowledge of the fight in a non-threatening, supportive way.</p>
<p>*shifty eyes*</p>
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		<title>By: Necroid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Necroid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 12:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm....

&quot;What does we need?&quot;
&quot;kick the new dk to..he have bader gear&quot;

Then he calls people &quot;retards&quot;? Can&#039;t believe the language, annoying text speak, and bad attitudes in that. You have more patience than me Shell :-)

Gear, GS, your dps count, immature effwits, the &quot;Bring the gear, not the player&quot; philosophy. I&#039;m trying to get myself back into WoW after a break. This did not help lol ^^

You should have kicked them all into line, like you did on that Onyxia pug back when I was newb :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8220;What does we need?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;kick the new dk to..he have bader gear&#8221;</p>
<p>Then he calls people &#8220;retards&#8221;? Can&#8217;t believe the language, annoying text speak, and bad attitudes in that. You have more patience than me Shell <img src='http://emeralddreamers.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Gear, GS, your dps count, immature effwits, the &#8220;Bring the gear, not the player&#8221; philosophy. I&#8217;m trying to get myself back into WoW after a break. This did not help lol ^^</p>
<p>You should have kicked them all into line, like you did on that Onyxia pug back when I was newb <img src='http://emeralddreamers.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Huadan</title>
		<link>http://emeralddreamers.co.uk/2010/02/03/failpug-should-i-stay-or-should-i-go-now/comment-page-1/#comment-1000</link>
		<dc:creator>Huadan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 00:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I effing hate it when people say heal pls, its like they think were ignoring them or something. i must have so much self control not to let them die</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I effing hate it when people say heal pls, its like they think were ignoring them or something. i must have so much self control not to let them die</p>
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		<title>By: Spyna</title>
		<link>http://emeralddreamers.co.uk/2010/02/03/failpug-should-i-stay-or-should-i-go-now/comment-page-1/#comment-892</link>
		<dc:creator>Spyna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I usually try to lead my own pug to avoid those issues
Last Voa 10 I made, I actually managed to allocate not one but two items wrong (screw me for using ml in voa really) fortunately was lucky enough that people who got the item just gave it away to the real winner and we moved on</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I usually try to lead my own pug to avoid those issues<br />
Last Voa 10 I made, I actually managed to allocate not one but two items wrong (screw me for using ml in voa really) fortunately was lucky enough that people who got the item just gave it away to the real winner and we moved on</p>
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		<title>By: Farfetch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Farfetch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 00:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just had a brilliant one in Gundrak:

Kill 3rd boss, healer wants to go to Eck for the badge + achieve, tank doesn&#039;t want to. Tank jumps in water to go to final boss, so I thought, sod it, went with him, pally tank, 53k hp should be np... He and I start clearing trash while healer and him have an argument, eventually the 2 dps join us as does the healer but healer refuses to heal and /dance with the tank.

We killed the last boss with no heals, and the fight descends into a slanging match of caps during the boss:

Dragonblight tank: WHY YOU BEING A TWAT?
Al&#039;akir healer: because you decided to be one first perhaps?
DB: PLUS I TOLD YOU I DNT NEED HEALS
DB: FUCKIGN PALADIN MATE
DB: PLUS MY GEAR RAPES YOURS
AK: nice epeen
rogue from Al&#039;akir (lolrouge [sic]) yet your still a twat
rogue: well done
healer: ever heard of alts
tank: :)
tank: YEH
healer: caps freak
healer: see you
tank: SUCK ME
tank :)
healer: no thanks
&gt;tank and healer leave party&lt;

win!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just had a brilliant one in Gundrak:</p>
<p>Kill 3rd boss, healer wants to go to Eck for the badge + achieve, tank doesn&#8217;t want to. Tank jumps in water to go to final boss, so I thought, sod it, went with him, pally tank, 53k hp should be np&#8230; He and I start clearing trash while healer and him have an argument, eventually the 2 dps join us as does the healer but healer refuses to heal and /dance with the tank.</p>
<p>We killed the last boss with no heals, and the fight descends into a slanging match of caps during the boss:</p>
<p>Dragonblight tank: WHY YOU BEING A TWAT?<br />
Al&#8217;akir healer: because you decided to be one first perhaps?<br />
DB: PLUS I TOLD YOU I DNT NEED HEALS<br />
DB: FUCKIGN PALADIN MATE<br />
DB: PLUS MY GEAR RAPES YOURS<br />
AK: nice epeen<br />
rogue from Al&#8217;akir (lolrouge [sic]) yet your still a twat<br />
rogue: well done<br />
healer: ever heard of alts<br />
tank: <img src='http://emeralddreamers.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
tank: YEH<br />
healer: caps freak<br />
healer: see you<br />
tank: SUCK ME<br />
tank <img src='http://emeralddreamers.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
healer: no thanks<br />
&gt;tank and healer leave party&lt;</p>
<p>win!</p>
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		<title>By: Shell</title>
		<link>http://emeralddreamers.co.uk/2010/02/03/failpug-should-i-stay-or-should-i-go-now/comment-page-1/#comment-619</link>
		<dc:creator>Shell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 15:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pugged VoA last night again, failed again, but most of the group were actually really nice and polite and optimistic so never fear, good pugs do exist!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pugged VoA last night again, failed again, but most of the group were actually really nice and polite and optimistic so never fear, good pugs do exist!</p>
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		<title>By: Magevossie</title>
		<link>http://emeralddreamers.co.uk/2010/02/03/failpug-should-i-stay-or-should-i-go-now/comment-page-1/#comment-618</link>
		<dc:creator>Magevossie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 10:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got like 4 lvl 60 chars, poke me if Im not busy and Ill come with you.
Ill talk enough even when the other 3 wont say a word ^^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got like 4 lvl 60 chars, poke me if Im not busy and Ill come with you.<br />
Ill talk enough even when the other 3 wont say a word ^^</p>
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		<title>By: Necralla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Necralla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 19:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i just tried my very first PUG using the Dungeon Finder...was on my lvl61 warlock...a bit nervous as my main is a warrior and im used to tanking everything...so randomed Blood Furnace...got there and everyone started buffing...except the pala....he didn&#039;t say a thing...just jumped up and down on the spot til we were all ready...so...then we took out the first room easy...tho somone did ask if the pala was a noob since he hadn&#039;t buffed himself yet....no reply...onto next room...tank runs in and pala instantly follows behind...then as the tank takes the first group the pala decides it is a good idea to go grab the other groups around the room...obviously he thought the tank was slacking and needed more of a challenge...then pala dies....tank dies and the rest of us run for our lives before dying :) tank says its all the palas fault and moans about the healer not healing then quits...followed by the healer...and the other guy...living me and the pala...who still says nothing...fun...not so much but i will try again...hopefully with an awesome group of ppl who talk to one another and know what they are doing just a little...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just tried my very first PUG using the Dungeon Finder&#8230;was on my lvl61 warlock&#8230;a bit nervous as my main is a warrior and im used to tanking everything&#8230;so randomed Blood Furnace&#8230;got there and everyone started buffing&#8230;except the pala&#8230;.he didn&#8217;t say a thing&#8230;just jumped up and down on the spot til we were all ready&#8230;so&#8230;then we took out the first room easy&#8230;tho somone did ask if the pala was a noob since he hadn&#8217;t buffed himself yet&#8230;.no reply&#8230;onto next room&#8230;tank runs in and pala instantly follows behind&#8230;then as the tank takes the first group the pala decides it is a good idea to go grab the other groups around the room&#8230;obviously he thought the tank was slacking and needed more of a challenge&#8230;then pala dies&#8230;.tank dies and the rest of us run for our lives before dying <img src='http://emeralddreamers.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  tank says its all the palas fault and moans about the healer not healing then quits&#8230;followed by the healer&#8230;and the other guy&#8230;living me and the pala&#8230;who still says nothing&#8230;fun&#8230;not so much but i will try again&#8230;hopefully with an awesome group of ppl who talk to one another and know what they are doing just a little&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sisika</title>
		<link>http://emeralddreamers.co.uk/2010/02/03/failpug-should-i-stay-or-should-i-go-now/comment-page-1/#comment-602</link>
		<dc:creator>Sisika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 10:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Regarding the gear thing in VOA I remember when ages and ages ago when a guildy rogue in Spice just dinged and was in shoddyish gear. He pugged raids and had the strategy of standing inside a tauren or inside a warlock summon stone to avoid the dreaded “gear judgement”&quot;

Ah yes, I enjoyed that trick, never get away with it now with Gearscore and everything else. Fortunally my gear has got slightly better since those days!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Regarding the gear thing in VOA I remember when ages and ages ago when a guildy rogue in Spice just dinged and was in shoddyish gear. He pugged raids and had the strategy of standing inside a tauren or inside a warlock summon stone to avoid the dreaded “gear judgement”&#8221;</p>
<p>Ah yes, I enjoyed that trick, never get away with it now with Gearscore and everything else. Fortunally my gear has got slightly better since those days!</p>
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