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		<title>By: Chea</title>
		<link>http://emeralddreamers.co.uk/2010/03/05/blog-azeroth-shared-topic-positive-pugs/comment-page-1/#comment-1036</link>
		<dc:creator>Chea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 12:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking for myself, I&#039;ve had not too many bad pugs. Yesterday daily random (heroic HoL) was a funny one though. We had a DK tank who &quot;spammed&quot; to macros at start: first one about him being dyslectic, so he has problems reading and writing in chat. The second one about him being new to tanking. For me this is always more fun, instead of just running with the group and trying to do as much damage as possible while doing a small heal now and then, you know you will have to be healing a lot more and have to take care of the DPS. We didn&#039;t do too bad, except for the furry warrior getting aggro all the time because of charging in and starting to cleave groups before the tank was even near (too bad I let him die a few times...). So now we had (according to the warrior) a bad tank AND a bad healer. The &quot;kick from group&quot;-popup came up, initiated by the warrior, asking to remove the DK but fortunately the other players didn&#039;t want to kick him too. We came to the last room before Loken, with all those 3-mob packs. The mage accidentally pulled two more packs, and the DK had to tank 9 mobs of a sudden instead of the 3 expected ones. The warrior, mage and spriest started AOE&#039;ing the mobs, and ofcourse all died. The DK and me succeeded in killing all 9 mobs together. I complimented the DK in chat with this, and the warrior was quiet all the sudden. Loken was no problem, and we disbanded with at least two people having had fun. I even think the DK felt much better and confident after the run...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking for myself, I&#8217;ve had not too many bad pugs. Yesterday daily random (heroic HoL) was a funny one though. We had a DK tank who &#8220;spammed&#8221; to macros at start: first one about him being dyslectic, so he has problems reading and writing in chat. The second one about him being new to tanking. For me this is always more fun, instead of just running with the group and trying to do as much damage as possible while doing a small heal now and then, you know you will have to be healing a lot more and have to take care of the DPS. We didn&#8217;t do too bad, except for the furry warrior getting aggro all the time because of charging in and starting to cleave groups before the tank was even near (too bad I let him die a few times&#8230;). So now we had (according to the warrior) a bad tank AND a bad healer. The &#8220;kick from group&#8221;-popup came up, initiated by the warrior, asking to remove the DK but fortunately the other players didn&#8217;t want to kick him too. We came to the last room before Loken, with all those 3-mob packs. The mage accidentally pulled two more packs, and the DK had to tank 9 mobs of a sudden instead of the 3 expected ones. The warrior, mage and spriest started AOE&#8217;ing the mobs, and ofcourse all died. The DK and me succeeded in killing all 9 mobs together. I complimented the DK in chat with this, and the warrior was quiet all the sudden. Loken was no problem, and we disbanded with at least two people having had fun. I even think the DK felt much better and confident after the run&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: molpadia</title>
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		<dc:creator>molpadia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 16:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>seriously tho ive had some really good pugs. i must be lucky, not had anyone shout at me or call me a noob, well not on my druid anyway. I found that the best pugs are from guild groups who need an extra dps or heals etc from the pug system and end up with moi :D always time for a chat and a /dance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>seriously tho ive had some really good pugs. i must be lucky, not had anyone shout at me or call me a noob, well not on my druid anyway. I found that the best pugs are from guild groups who need an extra dps or heals etc from the pug system and end up with moi <img src='http://emeralddreamers.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  always time for a chat and a /dance.</p>
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		<title>By: molpadia</title>
		<link>http://emeralddreamers.co.uk/2010/03/05/blog-azeroth-shared-topic-positive-pugs/comment-page-1/#comment-1027</link>
		<dc:creator>molpadia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 16:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its not my fault I&#039;m a huntard.....wait you were talking about me right? :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its not my fault I&#8217;m a huntard&#8230;..wait you were talking about me right? <img src='http://emeralddreamers.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Necroid</title>
		<link>http://emeralddreamers.co.uk/2010/03/05/blog-azeroth-shared-topic-positive-pugs/comment-page-1/#comment-1009</link>
		<dc:creator>Necroid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 14:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I salute your courage for doing so many pugs *salutes* ( also glad Oopsthetankdied wasn&#039;t healing Weasel heroics, repair bills suck. Nec would have billed you :-P ).

Completely agree with you on the time element though. You can charge through something with a good group and no chat and get your shinies (all fast and efficient) where the game and the objective are the be all and end all. 

Or you can take your time with good company, either old friends or ones you just met on the pug, where interacting with people is the main objective. Where you don&#039;t care if you didn&#039;t get the &quot;Purple pants of awesomesauce&quot; since you didn&#039;t get to the last boss.

MMO&#039;s should be more about people. Personally I&#039;d rather do a 5 hour UK run, with folk I enjoy the company of, than a 20 minute rush with the &quot;Gogogo&quot; crowd. When you start thinking more about gear than people, and when you only see the other party members as a way to get your gear, then it&#039;s time to quit :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I salute your courage for doing so many pugs *salutes* ( also glad Oopsthetankdied wasn&#8217;t healing Weasel heroics, repair bills suck. Nec would have billed you <img src='http://emeralddreamers.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' />  ).</p>
<p>Completely agree with you on the time element though. You can charge through something with a good group and no chat and get your shinies (all fast and efficient) where the game and the objective are the be all and end all. </p>
<p>Or you can take your time with good company, either old friends or ones you just met on the pug, where interacting with people is the main objective. Where you don&#8217;t care if you didn&#8217;t get the &#8220;Purple pants of awesomesauce&#8221; since you didn&#8217;t get to the last boss.</p>
<p>MMO&#8217;s should be more about people. Personally I&#8217;d rather do a 5 hour UK run, with folk I enjoy the company of, than a 20 minute rush with the &#8220;Gogogo&#8221; crowd. When you start thinking more about gear than people, and when you only see the other party members as a way to get your gear, then it&#8217;s time to quit <img src='http://emeralddreamers.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Joule</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joule</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wall of text incoming... :P

Reading on here and on the official forums about everyone&#039;s bad experiences with PUGs, I think I must be pretty lucky with them. I&#039;ve come across a few nubs of course, and I did get a bit of verbal (or should that be typed?) GBH from someone from the infamous Al&#039;Akir realm during a PoS run once, but on the whole things have been OK for me. I&#039;ve just done a marathon hc spam to gear my shammy up, and I only got one /w about my crap DPS, and when I explained I&#039;d just dinged 80 he replied &#039;Oh, OK, np&#039; and that was that.

I personally think that the serious lack of social interaction in PUGs - especially at level 80, I find there seems to be a bit more in the way of chatting in lower level dungeons, especially long ones like Stratholme and BRD - makes me appreciate good PUGs even more. I did HoL hc on the aforementioned shammy with 4 guys who were all from the same guild on another realm. I was in Elemental spec, but the healer kept dying and so I was whacking out emergency Chain Heals like no tomorrow to keep the tank and the other two DPS up. At the end they all thanked me very nicely for saving their arses and told me I was a pro healer. That made my night, really. :P

One of my best PUGs ever happened just a couple of weeks ago. I was on my little shammy again for a Mount Hyjal raid as a healer, and the run, which began about midnight and lasted maybe an hour and a half at the most, was so smooth I couldn&#039;t believe it. I knew it was going to be good when - shock horror! - no one actually started the event until everyone was actually inside the instance! No idiots yelling &#039;GOGOGOGO&#039;, no nerdraging, no loot drama and nobody screaming &#039;REZ PL0X!&#039; (which is my absolute pet hate as a healer. Especially the ones who actually whisper me personally  for a ress. I will ress you in my own time, thank you. I can see perfectly well that you&#039;re dead. If I am not ressing, it is because I either have no mana, am still in combat or you are out of my range or LoS. You don&#039;t like it, release and corpse run like I had to!)

TL,DR version: Yes, good and even awesome PUGs do exist. I take screenies of them now for posterity&#039;s sake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wall of text incoming&#8230; <img src='http://emeralddreamers.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Reading on here and on the official forums about everyone&#8217;s bad experiences with PUGs, I think I must be pretty lucky with them. I&#8217;ve come across a few nubs of course, and I did get a bit of verbal (or should that be typed?) GBH from someone from the infamous Al&#8217;Akir realm during a PoS run once, but on the whole things have been OK for me. I&#8217;ve just done a marathon hc spam to gear my shammy up, and I only got one /w about my crap DPS, and when I explained I&#8217;d just dinged 80 he replied &#8216;Oh, OK, np&#8217; and that was that.</p>
<p>I personally think that the serious lack of social interaction in PUGs &#8211; especially at level 80, I find there seems to be a bit more in the way of chatting in lower level dungeons, especially long ones like Stratholme and BRD &#8211; makes me appreciate good PUGs even more. I did HoL hc on the aforementioned shammy with 4 guys who were all from the same guild on another realm. I was in Elemental spec, but the healer kept dying and so I was whacking out emergency Chain Heals like no tomorrow to keep the tank and the other two DPS up. At the end they all thanked me very nicely for saving their arses and told me I was a pro healer. That made my night, really. <img src='http://emeralddreamers.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>One of my best PUGs ever happened just a couple of weeks ago. I was on my little shammy again for a Mount Hyjal raid as a healer, and the run, which began about midnight and lasted maybe an hour and a half at the most, was so smooth I couldn&#8217;t believe it. I knew it was going to be good when &#8211; shock horror! &#8211; no one actually started the event until everyone was actually inside the instance! No idiots yelling &#8216;GOGOGOGO&#8217;, no nerdraging, no loot drama and nobody screaming &#8216;REZ PL0X!&#8217; (which is my absolute pet hate as a healer. Especially the ones who actually whisper me personally  for a ress. I will ress you in my own time, thank you. I can see perfectly well that you&#8217;re dead. If I am not ressing, it is because I either have no mana, am still in combat or you are out of my range or LoS. You don&#8217;t like it, release and corpse run like I had to!)</p>
<p>TL,DR version: Yes, good and even awesome PUGs do exist. I take screenies of them now for posterity&#8217;s sake.</p>
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